Server Shopping
Page initially created: 2025-02-07.
I outlined my requirements and compiled my research on replacing my
dedicated server
in this file. On Feb. 6, I finally got around
to sending out a passel of letters to a select few vendors. Rather than
further clutter the research file with responses and further questions
and research notes, I thought I should start again with a fresh file.
There is, after all, much to sort through.
I started by crafting a standard RFP letter, which follows (unindented
in case I want to copy and reuse it later) between horizontal bar markers.
The actual letters/messages I sent (about half via email, half through
HTML forms, the latter often plugged directly into the vendor's support
ticket system) might also include a greeting, a "thanks for your time,"
and possibly a PS specific to the vendor (although I did fewer of those
as the night wore on).
I've been building and managing websites since 2001, and for most of
that time I've leased a fairly low-end dedicated server. I've had my
current machine since 2018, but the vendor is no longer providing
satisfactory support -- something they blame on cPanel hiking their
licensing fees. While it's possible to get a less expensive VPS --
(and possibly better performing, although that's hard to estimate --
now, possibly with some alternative to cPanel, I've started to wonder
whether my needs might be better served by some kind of Seller
Rehosting setup.
My current needs are pretty modest: I'm hosting 10
websites, which take about 30GB disk storage, and have used no
more than 300GB bandwidth in any month in the last year. The
websites are a mix of WordPress and hand-coded PHP, with a bit
of MySQL. I use the SSL certificate provided by cPanel. The only
other feature I make much use of is Mailman for a few light-traffic
email lists (one has 300 subscribers, the others are in the 10-20
range). Email is my biggest headache, as my IP address has been
blacklisted by several major carriers, for reasons I can find no
explanation for, nor get much help from. (At one point, cPanel
took over support directly, but now they're also passing the
buck.)
Of course, I would like a plan that doesn't just meet my minimal
needs, but provides some head room and a growth path -- not that I
expect I'm ever going to expand much beyond being a service I
offer to friends and family, as well as supporting my own writing.
Also, I want to avoid anything with future price hikes, or that
penalizes me if I decide you're not providing the service I need.
I've been on my current plan for six years, trying as it has been,
so I'm not what you'd call a "flighty" customer. I'm also "retired"
now, but I was a UNIX/Linux sysadmin and programmer from 1980-2010,
so I have solid (though possibly dated) do-it-yourself skills, and
promise not to bother your service people with frivolous questions,
and to do what I can to keep everything running smoothly.)
After I decided I need to make a change, I've looked at about
70 possible vendors, and you're one of the few I've decided to
approach. Rather than me trying to guess from your menu, please
respond with any further questions you have, in order to give me
a specific proposal, with possible options. Also, if you really
think a VPS would be a better choice for me, I'd like to hear
why. I hope to make a decision this week.
20i: Sent message in form. Got a quick reply:
If you're hosting 10 websites, I would say you'd likely do best on our
lowest Reseller Hosting plan. [$19.95 after 1st month discount; only
30GB SSD.] Even if all of those websites are yours, Reseller itself
doesn't necessarily mean you have to resell packages, of course!
For your WordPress websites, we do have WordPress packages that are
purpose built for them, though our Linux packages do run them just as
well. The WordPress specific packages have a few extra tools that
integrate into the website, such as a way to make a change to the home
and siteurl tables for the main domain of your website without
requiring SSH to do so. However, they are restricted to have the main
website and a staging site built from it - subdomains contained on the
same package wouldn't be possible. Linux packages allow defined
document roots for subdomains however, so that could suit your
purposes better, depending on the website.
It does sound like you're confident with UNIX and Linux based
systems, so you're likely familiar with SSH in that case - you may
find it easiest to run all of your websites on simple Linux packages,
then.
The only item of concern I would say may be the email lists - the
10-20 ones would be absolutely fine on our platform, but our mailing
system isn't designed for full bulk mail sending. However, does
Mailman operate similarly to something like Mailjet or Mailgun? [No.]
Those bulk mail sender services may be best suited for the larger site
- but the others shouldn't require any of those systems!
The last item I can say is that our prices do tend to be much more
stable than cPanel based hosts. We've designed all of our systems from
the ground-up to integrate with our platform, and we don't make use of
cPanel, instead using our own StackCP system. That does mean we don't
require pushing that fee onto our clients, since there is no fee for
using our own platform, of course!
I would also argue our Resellers systems are likely best for your
use-case - our VPS systems tend to be for more heavier users, and at
the prices you'd be looking for multi-site hosting, Reseller does the
same job without any worries of overheads, I'd say. Do let me know if
there's anything you'd like clarifying!
ScalaHosting: Lots of questions added in PS. Sent email. Got
reply:
It's great to hear that you have extensive experience, and we'd love
to help you find the best hosting solution.
Lately, many users have been looking for alternatives to cPanel due
to unreliable management and frequent price increases.
The SPanel is a super-optimized platform, covering all of the
cPanel-like features while being extremely light on the server
itself. It is entirely developed by our company, we improve it all the
time as it is based largely on the client's feedback we received
through the years - something we call Cloud Democracy Policy. That is
why we use it on our own servers as well. And the SPanel is included
in the Entry Cloud and VPS plans, which means that it doesn't increase
your bill at any point in the future.
Based on your usage -- 10 light websites and 30GB of storage -- our
Entry Cloud plan would be an ideal starting point. It's essentially a
VPS plan with dedicated resources of 2CPU cores, 2GB RAM, and an
upgradeable 50GB NVMe SSD.
It comes with a dedicated IP as well. You've mentioned that your IP
got blacklisted, so this will make a massive difference in the email
work and delivery for the future. Our spam protection and blacklist
monitoring will apply as well, ensuring that everything from the
hosting end is clear and available for a great email experience.
All our plans come with a 30-day money-back guarantee so you can
test everything with zero risk.
To make this better, we have something you won't find elsewhere -
an anytime money-back policy. That means that if you take a plan for
any time you like, 12 or 36 months, and decide to cancel after 3-4
months, we will refund you the remaining period, no questions
asked.
Our technical team will handle the migration from your current
provider. You'll just need to provide access, and we'll take care of
the rest.
The price for the Entry Cloud with the promo pricing:
- 1 year - $19.95/month - $239.40
- 3 years - $14.95/month - $538.20
The regular renewal price for 1 year after that is $29.95/month
Let me know if this sounds good or if you have any other
questions. I'd be happy to assist you further!
InterServer: Questions: support, migration, cPanel, email. Sent
email. Reply (Ticket QPX-288-75852):
It's advisable to choose our managed 'Slice 8' VPS for your needs. You
can check the pricing and details below:
$24.00/mo
4 Cores
8GB Memory
120GB SSD Storage
8TB Transfer
https://www.interserver.net/vps/
As for cPanel, they do raise the license fee each year, so opting
for the Directadmin control panel is a better choice. We can provide a
free Directadmin license that supports 1 user and 10 domains.
Here is Directadmin pricing details, if you need to add more users
and domains:
https://www.interserver.net/controlpanels/directadmin.html
We offer 24/7 support through chat, tickets, or phone calls. For
email services, we recommend installing our MailBaby service on the
server. MailBaby acts as an email smart host that provides outbound
filtering. Emails are sent to MailBaby systems for content analysis,
and then routed based on their content and score, or marked as spam if
necessary. MailBaby also manages IP reputation. You can find more
details
here.
At the moment, we don't provide migration support for the VPS, but
Directadmin includes a tool called cPanel import, which can assist
with migrating from a cPanel-based server (root access to that server
is required).
By default, SMTP ports are disabled on the VPS. We can enable them
as long as they are not used for spamming purposes.
Of course, Let's Encrypt SSL and MySQL are supported in Direct
Admin.
IonBlade: Email sent.
Support ticket opened. Replied with link to support ticket:
Thank you for reaching out and providing such detailed information
about your current hosting setup and requirements. Based on the needs
you've outlined, I recommend starting with our
Reseller Silver Plan. This plan provides 50GB of disk space, which
not only covers your current usage (30GB) but also gives you
additional headroom for growth.
Here's what our Reseller Silver Plan offers:
- Ample Resources: 50GB disk space and sufficient bandwidth to
support your current and projected usage.
- Scalability: As your needs grow, you can easily upgrade to a
higher-tier reseller hosting plan or transition to VPS/Cloud
hosting.
- Dedicated IP Address: We can include a dedicated IP to help
mitigate email blacklisting issues.
- Control Panel Options: While cPanel is included by default due
to its robustness and security, we also offer alternatives like
DirectAdmin or Plesk if you're looking for a more cost-effective
solution.
- Discount: We're offering 50% off your first year of hosting to
make the transition smoother.
We strive to keep our pricing competitive and avoid unnecessary
price increases, though our prices are partly influenced by factors
like cPanel licensing.
To provide a more tailored recommendation, I have a few additional
questions:
- RAM Requirements: At peak usage, do you know the approximate RAM
your websites require? This will help us evaluate whether a VPS might
better suit your needs.
- Type of Websites: Are the sites primarily small static websites,
blogs, or eCommerce platforms that might have higher resource
demands?
- Email Sending Volume: Approximately how many emails are sent
daily? Do you follow email best practices (SPF, DKIM, DMARC) to
improve deliverability?
- Mailman Usage: For your Mailman lists, do you require any specific
configurations or customizations to ensure smooth operation?
Based on your responses, I can confirm whether the Reseller Silver
Plan is the best fit or if a VPS solution might offer better
performance and flexibility.
Let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns. I
look forward to helping you make the best choice for your hosting
needs.
I answered:
I'll try to answer your questions.
RAM: My current dedicated server has 32GB RAM. That seems to be
adequate, but RAM is cheap enough (when I buy it; leasing seems to be
another world) that my home machines have at least 64GB RAM. When I
last checked, it looked like my server was using 23GB RAM (so wasn't
even swapping). That's the whole machine, whereas what you're quoting
may be something else completely.
I'm often surprised by some of the small limits placed on RAM, SSD,
etc., as in my world those are cheap resources. I'm inclined to want
extra disk for things like temporary backups, which have no impact on
website size or traffic.
Most of my sites are hand-coded PHP, with no JavaScript and nothing
special beyond that on the server side. I need SSL because browsers
expect it. I also need MySQL, at present primarily for WordPress,
which I have several websites running. I'm not running spyware for
Google or anything like that. I may want to do more server-side stuff
in the future, but right now my sites are pretty lightweight.
I'm doing all the right things with email. Only one Mailman list
has 200+ addresses, which I use seasonally, and no more than 3-5 times
in a peak month. Beyond that, I'm doing very little email (although
I'd like to do more if it worked). WHM was generating a lot of mail,
but I directed that to a local account, which I can POP, so that
doesn't really count.
If your prices quoted are right, I'd probably go for Gold over
Silver, but if cPanel, etc., are extra, I'd have to think harder. When
I click on "Get Started," it doesn't tell me anything useful. I'll be
reusing my current domain names. My accounts use ns[12].hullworks.net
for nameserver, so if you migrated that, their definitions shouldn't
have to change (although if you have a better idea, let me know).
Asura: Submitted
sales ticket. Reply:
I would recommend a Reseller plan for you're sort of setup, we do have
dedicated plans for cPanel directly:
https://www.asurahosting.com/cpanel-reseller-hosting.
The plans do come with a different set of resources as well:
These are the resources that can be assigned per sub-account that
you create under the reseller account:
Reseller 1 (Per account):
RAM: 1-2GB
I/O: 2MB/s
Entry Processes: 20
CPU: 2 Cores
Inodes: Unlimited
IOPS: 1024
Processes: 100
Reseller 2 (Per account)
RAM: 2-3GB
I/O: 5MB/s
Entry Processes: 25
CPU: 2-3 Cores
Inodes: Unlimited
IOPS: 1024
Processes: 100 Reseller 3 (Per account):
RAM: 2-4GB
I/O: 8MB/s
Entry Processes: 30
CPU: 3-5 Cores
Inodes: Unlimited
IOPS: 1024
Processes: 100
Reseller 4 (Per account):
RAM: 3-5GB
I/O: 10MB/s
Entry Processes: 30
CPU: 7 Cores
Inodes: Unlimited
IOPS: 1024
Processes: 100
Do keep in mind that you have to request it from us, as we assign
the resources to each of your hosting plans that you create under your
reseller account so it'll automatically be assigned to your hosting
accounts.
Considering your bandwidth, I would recommend probably Reseller 2 /
Reseller 3.
But they do support all the requirements you laid out,
MySQL/MariaDB, PHP, Litespeed, etc.
Do let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.
No Frills: Mail sent.
Support ticket
Sounds like our cPanel reseller hosting plans would be a great
fit. The CH-2 plan has 40GB of storage space with Unmetered bandwidth
for $19.99 per month (plus any applicable sales taxes).
Regarding price hikes, they are likely to be a fact of life. We've
faced increases in staffing costs, electricity costs and software
licenses (including cPanel who increase prices each year), so anyone
who tells you there will not be any future price hikes is likely lying
to you. We don't do the "discounted first term" catch that some other
providers do, with the exception of 90% off your first month with the
coupon code "TRIAL" during checkout.
If you have root access to your current cPanel Dedicated Server, we
can migrate your sites across quickly and easily to our server.
The only thing I will note of your setup is that we generally
recommend that mailing lists are sent via third-party SMTP services,
eg Amazon SES, which is supported by Mailman. That way, those emails
are sent via Amazon's infrastructure. You'd setup your own Amazon
account, and they charge you 10c per 1000 emails sent.
Just to add, our Technical Support is 24x7 on ticket/email and live
chat.
Our Sales & Billing team operates during daytime hours in
Australia/Singapore time zones, which is why it took so long to get
back to you.
GlowHost: Email available, but instead submitted
support ticket, as they promised both tech and sales review.
Replied using ticket system:
We will be happy to provide a web hosting service for your project.
Regarding a Reseller Hosting Plan. You can check our plans on this
page:
You can start with the Level I plan ($24.95 per month), which will
cover your current needs of the number of cPanel accounts, disk space,
and bandwidth.
We will be happy to help with the migration of your main account,
including other cPanel accounts. Our technicians will do their best to
make this process as seamless as possible.
Regarding room for growth.
There is always room to upgrade your account with GlowHost. You
will be able to upgrade your Reseller Plan to a higher level Reseller
Plan, VDS, or Dedicated Server when the time comes. Our team will be
happy to be of assistance with an upgrade.
Regarding Mailman support.
I have had a consultation with our technicians and they informed that
there won't be any issues with this. This is supported on our Reseller
Hosting Plans.
Regarding the blacklisted IP address issue.
We recommend using the SpamExperts addon for your outgoing emails in
order to prevent them from being blacklisted. You can check more
information regarding this
here:
SpamExperts is available from GlowHost at the cost of $3.00 per domain
per month.
Please let us know if you have any questions, and we'll be happy to
assist! We are here 24/7/365.
Also a follow up:
I'm following up here to add to my colleague's previous message.
I understand that there is a concern with price hikes. I'd like to
assure you, in our almost 25 years of business, we've always offered
stable pricing for our clients. Seeing is believing of course, so I'd
like to invite you to have a look on
The Internet Archive and draw your own conclusions.
That being said, even though we've historically offered very stable
pricing for almost 25 years, we cannot rule out price increases
entirely for some services, because vendors like cPanel are
aggressively increasing their prices as of lately. However, I can say
that despite the annual price increases over the last several years,
we've not increased our prices for most of our services, and when we
did increase our prices, we always try our best to grandfather our
existing clients into the old pricing (which is the most common
scenario).
Please let us know if you have any other questions, and our team
will always be standing by to help.
Green Geeks: Mail sent. Opened support ticket (JDQ-613-13233).
Reply:
Thank you for reaching out to GreenGeeks and for considering us as
your new hosting provider. We appreciate the detailed overview of your
hosting requirements, and based on your needs, we believe our Reseller
25 plan would be a great fit for you. This plan offers:
- 60 GB SSD Disk Space -- Ensuring fast and reliable storage.
- 600 GB Transfer -- More than enough for your current usage with room to grow.
- 25 cPanel Accounts -- Allowing you to manage your sites efficiently and scale as needed.
The onboarding price for this plan is $19.95/month, with a
standard renewal rate of $34.95/month. Unlike other providers, we
prioritize transparency, meaning no hidden fees or unexpected
charges -- what you see is what you get.
Addressing Your Specific Concerns:
- Email Deliverability Issues -- To help mitigate blacklisting
concerns, we can offer you a dedicated IP for $48 per year, which can
greatly improve email reputation and deliverability.
- SSL Certificates -- We provide free Let's Encrypt SSL
certificates, ensuring all your sites are secure without additional
costs.
- cPanel Expertise & Support -- While you have extensive
technical experience, even though we understand that you have a
do-it-yourself skills but there may still be moments where you need
assistance. Our entire support team is cPanel-certified, meaning
you'll receive knowledgeable, high-quality support whenever
required.
- Bulk Email Sending -- We do offer bulk email functionality within
cPanel; however, there is a sending limit of 100 emails per hour. If
Mailman is critical to your operations, we recommend reviewing whether
this limit aligns with your needs, if yes then you can check our VPS
plan as we have no limit on email sending.
Why GreenGeeks?
We're not just another hosting provider -- we pride ourselves on
delivering reliable, eco-friendly hosting with exceptional
support. With us, you won't have to worry about price hikes or
unnecessary upsells. Our goal is to provide a long-term, stable, and
scalable hosting solution that grows with you.
Let us know if you'd like to proceed with this plan or if you have
any further questions. We'd be happy to assist you in making the best
choice for your hosting needs.
Namecheap: Mail sent. Reply:
Thank you for reaching out and providing such detailed insights into
your hosting requirements.
Given your usage, technical background, and preference for
long-term stability, we believe our VPS Pulsar package would be an
excellent starting point. This plan offers a balance of performance,
control, and affordability while allowing you to scale if needed. You
are welcome to check the details about this package
here.
You can continue using cPanel, though its licensing fees are
subject to change as determined by cPanel itself. The changes have a
direct impact on all hosting providers, including Namecheap.
Alternatively, we support another control panel like Webuzo if
you're open to switching.
Given your email concerns, a VPS provides a dedicated IP address,
reducing the chances of blacklisting. Please note that IP reputation
is the sole responsibility of the user. Once a dedicated IP address or
VPS/Dedicated server with the User-Responsible management type is
purchased, the IP holder (user) is to maintain its reputation.
Regarding SSL. Free SSL certificates are available, just like your
current setup with the cPanel. Once you enable AutoSSL, your websites
are automatically secured with a free, Domain Validated SSL
certificate. Besides, at expiration time, a new, free SSL is requested
and automatically installed. You are welcome to read more about this feature
here.
If your resource demands increase, you can seamlessly upgrade to
VPS Quasar, which offers more CPU, RAM, and storage. This ensures your
websites continue running optimally without migrating to a different
provider.
Feel free to reach out in case of any questions or concerns. We'd
be happy to assist you at any time.
I wrote back:
Thanks for your reply. Looking at your monthly pricing, the difference
between Quasar ($15.88/mo) and Pulsar ($9.88/mo) in itself doesn't
seem like much of a stretch, but there seem to be some extra-cost
items further down. I don't know how to gauge my needs for "CPU cores"
and RAM, but the extra SSD and bandwidth moves from meeting my current
needs to providing some manner of comfort.
I take it the panel software is all extra, so I'm looking at
$11.88/mo for Webuzo (15 accounts) or $19.88/mo for cPanel (also 15
accounts), as I think the solo licenses would be too restricting for
me. While I'm generally satisfied with cPanel, I'm not wed to it. The
only thing I use there that I'm not seeing under Webuzo is GNU
Mailman. Its present value to me is pretty limited, as much of what
I've been sending out has been blocked or spam-trapped by major email
providers (Gmail, MSN, etc.). This shouldn't be a problem, but
convincing mega-corps not to screw you over is a lot of work -- and
something my previous vendor has been no help with. (I'm hoping to get
some support people who will at least try to answer some questions on
this.)It's also been suggested to me that I should send email through a
third-party service, so I will look into that. Webuzo's "features
list" has MailChannels and JetBackup as "coming soon." Probably more
extra-cost services, but the former is one of the mail services I've
run across.
The other possible extra-cost item I see is "VPS Server
Management," which could be another $25/mo, but from your file looks
more like a crap shoot: the flat rates seem like rare events, but not
something one feels like dickering over when they're actually
needed. I ordered some extra level of backups and management with my
old dedicated server, and never got a dime's worth of value out of
them. I want to make sure I get better service this time -- especially
to answer questions (like I currently get tons of WHM notifications,
so I might wonder which ones to take seriously, and what to do about
them, or I might ask where the email deliverability logs are; I'm
pretty hands-on, but I don't have infinite time to research things),
which is what you seem to be offering under your "24/7 Service"
heading.Am I missing anything here?
Oh, I see you have a separate add-on price for Softaculous, but
Webuzo implies they include it. Do they? I'm also wondering whether
Webuzo has something equivalent to the WP Toolkit that comes with
cPanel (or at least did with 110)?
Entirely Digital/OLM: No email address available. I used their
ticket system to contact their sales department (ticket #43495836).
Got reply:
For only 10 cpanel sites, you can use
Starter Reseller:
80G storage and 20 cpanel accounts at $27/month
You can upgrade that any time and if you feel a VPS is best down
the road, cpanel accounts are easy to migrated.
Base VPS is $60/month + cpanel license which will be close to
$90/month.
Let us know if you wish to proceed - if your source server is
cpanel we can do a WHM > WHM transfer via SSH/Transfer tool for
you.
Fast Comet: Sent email, but I have doubts, especially about
pricing. Got reply:
Thank you for reaching out and considering FastComet as your potential
hosting provider.
We appreciate the detailed overview of your hosting needs and
technical background, and we're confident that we can offer a solution
that aligns with your goals while ensuring long-term reliability and
flexibility.
Based on your requirements, we would recommend considering our
managed VPS plans, and more specifically Cloud VPS 2.
This plan offers the performance and control you need, with
additional headroom for growth. With this plan, you get 1 dedicated IP
address, and we also provide 5 free website transfers. Our VPS plans
are fully managed and come with WHM including one cPanel. In case you
want to separate each website you can do that by adding more cPanel
accounts, which provide individual access to each of your users. We
offer a cPanel Pro Licence with 30 cPanels for $27.93/month.
As for your email deliverability challenges, we understand how
important this is for your business. That's why we offer SpamExperts
extra as an Add-on service, which is a powerful tool designed to
safeguard your email systems.
SpamExperts offers: Spam Filtering: Advanced algorithms that help
prevent unwanted emails, ensuring that only legitimate messages reach
your inbox.
Email Reputation Management: Prevents your IP address from being
blacklisted, as SpamExperts proactively filters outgoing emails and
ensures compliance with email best practices.
SpamExperts Outband Filter Add-on is $19.95 per month.
We believe that our managed VPS plans, combined with the email
protection tools provided by SpamExperts Outband Filter, will give you
a solution that suits your current needs while also giving you space
for future growth.
We are currently running a Winter Sale with 30% off and to take the
most advantage of it you can start with a
3-month plan:
Please, let us know if you would like to get further details or
have questions. We are happy to work with you to find a solution that
best fits your needs, and we look forward to being a long-term partner
in your web hosting journey.
JoneSolutions:
Reseller Hosting: Offers DirectAdmin. Sent email (2/10).
SetraHost:
DirectAdmin Reseller Hosting: Sent email (extra PS).
Shock Hosting:
Reseller Hosting: cPanel plans seem reasonable. Opened sales
ticket. Reply:
Thanks for reaching out and considering us as your hosting provider!
Based on what you are describing, it definitely sounds like you
don't need your own server and Reseller Hosting would be a perfect fit
for your requirements. The overall cost is much lower compared to your
own server and we take care of the server management so you don't need
to worry about the technical side.
When it comes to email deliverability, we route all outbound emails
through MailChannels which is an email filtering service that uses a
high reputation IP address pool to help ensure that emails land in the
inbox and not spam folder. Mailman with 300 subscribers is also not an
issue.
One thing that sets us apart from other hosting providers is that
we include a dedicated IP address for free with all plans for extra
reliability. Other providers put you on a shared IP with hundreds of
other clients which can be problematic. We also have multiple
datacenter locations around the world so that you can choose the
closest location to you.
Our Low Shock Reseller plan allows you to have 10 cPanel accounts
(plus a main cPanel account - 11 in total) for $19.99/month. If you
pre-pay you would be eligible for a discount of up to 25% offer but
you are more than welcome to start with a monthly plan and then switch
to a longer billing cycle in the future to receive the pre-pay
discount.
Also I just wanted to mention that we offer free migrations so we
will handle the migration from your current server.
Thank you again for considering us as your hosting provider. There
are lots of providers out there so we really appreciate every client
that trusts us with hosting their websites!
I thought about this overnight, and decided that this is the most
promising choice so far. I responded thus (via ticket):
This sounds, if anything, too good to be true. You're basically
offering the whole package, with no obvious gotchas, for about what
most vendors are tacking on as a surcharge for cPanel alone. I had
pretty much reconciled myself to switching to another panel, but it
should be easier to make the move to another cPanel system, so that's
a plus. But you seem to be a legit company, and I can imagine this
working out, perhaps perfectly.
I'm pretty solid on technical matters, but you are right that there
is a lot of headache to running a dedicated server that your setup
will save me. You also appear to have thought the email delivery
problem through. I hope that anything that MailChannels flags as
outgoing spam will be properly explained. I hate spam as much as
anyone, but I should be able to send email to lists of people who
asked to receive them.
I'm not seeing a lot of gory details about limited CPU
slices/cores, RAM, SSD, or even bandwidth for your various plans,
which suggests to me that you're technically confident that your
system provides adequate performance under all reasonable loads, and
that your marketing people haven't been allowed to turn them into
obstacles for tier-building. I'm all too aware of cPanel's own tier
marketing schemes, but it looks like you have even that under control
(at least for now).
I'd like to start with your mid-level ($24.95/month) plan, billed
monthly for now. I'd like to have the room for adding a few extra
accounts, and it's well within my budget. I gather that I can set up
multiple domain names under a single cPanel account, but thus far I've
always set up separate user accounts for each domain.
Let me know what I need to do to arrange payment, and whatever you
need to migrate the websites. I want to go through my current server,
make backups, and take notes on configuration, but you don't need for
me to complete before you start. I've been using hullworks.net as my
flagship domain (so the server is server.hullworks.net). My
nameservers are ns[12].hullworks.net; my clients manage their own
domain names, so they are already pointing to my nameservers, but feel
free to recommend whatever arrangement you think best.
One motivation for moving fast on this is that the bill for next
month's dedicated server arrives on Thursday, Feb. 13, so it would be
especially nice to shut them off today or tomorrow.
My phone number is 316-509-6067 (cell) or 316-263-7414 (home). My
address is 747 N. Faulkner St., Wichita, KS 67203. My visitors are
everywhere (one of my clients is in New Zealand), but probably best to
use one of your mid-US data centers, as the only one likely to notice
any performance issues is me.
I'll get to work now. Please let me know whatever you need from me,
and however I can help move this process along. Thanks very much.
I wrote the following to sales@cpanel.net:
I am leasing a fairly low-end dedicated server through Hosting &
Designs. My current server was configured in 2018, with cPanel/WHM
included. They subsequently bumped my monthly price up, supposedly to
cover one of your price increases. I gather there have been more, but
since this initial inflation, my vendor (and quite possibly you) have
responded with ever-diminishing levels of support. A few years back,
my vendor informed me that I would have to go to you for support. I
filed one ticket with you, and got a satisfactory resolution, but I've
tended to let things slide, even when I started getting mail messages
that I was running software past its EOL. When I finally did try to
follow up on this, I found that my vendor had shut down its support
ticket system. When I filed a ticket with you, I was told I would have
to contact some third party I've never heard of. I eventually figured
out (on my own) that the obsolete software is CentOS 7.9, and that
your software is still supported (although at 110 it's far from your
latest & greatest, so it's unclear how much longer until it
breaks). When I finally did get hold of my vendor, they suggested I
license cPanel straight from you, which would increase my monthly bill
from $115 to $180 -- and wouldn't solve the problem, since they're
responsible for upgrading CentOS.
The upshot of this is that I need to find a new webhosting
vendor. Given tech and pricing trends, and my own modest requirements
(10-20 low-volume websites), I scaled back what I was shopping for
from dedicated servers to VPS and finally to "reseller hosting"
plans. Most of what I'm seeing still come with some kind of bundled
cPanel/WHM. (I'm unclear how much of the WHM I'm used to actually
functions in a shared hosting environment. I'd guess that on a full
VPS system it would appear to be the same, but on a shared host it
would need to function with something less than full root powers.)
Others charge extra, and some offer alternatives like DirectAdmin or
their own panels (like SPanel). In all cases, I am led to worry that
you'll keep raising prices (and possibly cutting and/or complicating
support) in ways that would eventually make me regret going with
another cPanel/WHM system.
Before I make a decision, I thought I should at least get in touch
with you, and see what your version of this story is. I can imagine
scenarios where your pricing might be quite reasonable, especially if
your service is reliably as competent as it seemed to be in my one
chance encounter. It's possible, for instance, that your terms for the
reseller resellers are less onerous than they are for end
users. However, I'm just a retired programmer and writer helping his
friends out with their website needs, and this was already a
money-losing venture before you started tightening the screws. I'm
never going to make the kind of money you seem to be angling for. So
I'm just hoping to get a clearer idea of where you're going, and what
I should be doing.
Sorry if I seem irate, but I've been increasingly frustrated by my
vendor for a long time now, and the search for an alternative is
turning out to be extremely complicated, especially given the large
number of companies I've never heard of offering plans I don't
especially trust for one reason or another (and there are literally
dozens of them). I appreciate your understanding, and (hopefully)
considerate response. Also, if you have any particular hosting vendors
you think are especially trustworthy, I'd appreciate the advice.
I received this in response:
To answer your concerns, I can confirm that as of December 16, 2023,
we have stopped providing complementary technical support for any
individual who has their cPanel license issued through their web
hosting provider. This decision was made as it is a violation of our
licensing agreement that we have with the cPanel Partner.
As for using our software on a VPS, I can verify that many of our
customers are using a VPS, and have had great success. Since a VPS is
essentially a shared/cloud hosting plan, it is provisioned to function
as a dedicated server with "root" privileges, but with the resources
being shared amongst other uses on that dedicated server.
Unfortunately, it would not be proper for us to recommend one
hosting provider over another, but you are welcome to check our
Partner Directory for a list of cPanel Partners that provide cPanel at
link.
To find some recommendations for hosting providers, I would suggest
a website called
Web Hosting Talk.
This is an Internet forum where people can discuss topics related
to web hosting, especially discussing web hosting companies and their
personal experiences with the companies.
If there is anything else you feel I can be of assistance with,
please do not hesitate to reply to this message.
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